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		<title>By: Glenn Cassel AMH1(AW) USN Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Cassel AMH1(AW) USN Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basic terms: I would not let this &quot;individual&quot; babysit my grandchildren. Period. Remember, us enlisted types are little more direct than most. If he were to show up at my front door to date either of my daughters when they were single, I would have taken him to &quot;Parade Rest&quot; Old PO/NCO types know of what I speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basic terms: I would not let this &#8220;individual&#8221; babysit my grandchildren. Period. Remember, us enlisted types are little more direct than most. If he were to show up at my front door to date either of my daughters when they were single, I would have taken him to &#8220;Parade Rest&#8221; Old PO/NCO types know of what I speak.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who are proud of Lindsey &quot;in spite of him being a RINO&quot; do forget that on the national defense issue, he&#039;s always been rock solid.  But I have to hold my nose each and every time I vote for him, because he seems to think that our borders should have a revolving door on them.  How he rationalizes those two views, I&#039;ll never know.

I&#039;ve discussed this long and hard with my closest buddy (who&#039;s a conservative Democrat), and even though he&#039;s an Obama supporter, he agrees with me that the whol KSM civil trial thing makes zero sense.  Look, I don&#039;t like Obama or his politics, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s stupid, evil or insane.  Just wrong.  But for the life of me, I can&#039;t (nor could my friend) come up with ANY reason for doing this.

If the intent is to have a fair trial, then you&#039;ve got to accept that he&#039;s going to be acquitted.  He was not Mirandized, I&#039;m pretty sure the snake eaters who woke him at 2am didn&#039;t have an arrest warrant from any judge, he wasn&#039;t given an attorney...  It doens&#039;t MATTER if there&#039;s enough evidence to convict him without information taken while he was in custody... by every definition of American justice, the US government BROKE ALL STANDARDS in our treatment of him... IF he were an American citizen.  Now, military tribunal?  Awesome, book him and cook him.  But we can&#039;t even pretend to have a fair civil trial.  Maybe we can get Hu Jintao or Tsar Putin to come give us advice on how to properly run a kangaroo court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who are proud of Lindsey &#8220;in spite of him being a RINO&#8221; do forget that on the national defense issue, he&#8217;s always been rock solid.  But I have to hold my nose each and every time I vote for him, because he seems to think that our borders should have a revolving door on them.  How he rationalizes those two views, I&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve discussed this long and hard with my closest buddy (who&#8217;s a conservative Democrat), and even though he&#8217;s an Obama supporter, he agrees with me that the whol KSM civil trial thing makes zero sense.  Look, I don&#8217;t like Obama or his politics, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s stupid, evil or insane.  Just wrong.  But for the life of me, I can&#8217;t (nor could my friend) come up with ANY reason for doing this.</p>
<p>If the intent is to have a fair trial, then you&#8217;ve got to accept that he&#8217;s going to be acquitted.  He was not Mirandized, I&#8217;m pretty sure the snake eaters who woke him at 2am didn&#8217;t have an arrest warrant from any judge, he wasn&#8217;t given an attorney&#8230;  It doens&#8217;t MATTER if there&#8217;s enough evidence to convict him without information taken while he was in custody&#8230; by every definition of American justice, the US government BROKE ALL STANDARDS in our treatment of him&#8230; IF he were an American citizen.  Now, military tribunal?  Awesome, book him and cook him.  But we can&#8217;t even pretend to have a fair civil trial.  Maybe we can get Hu Jintao or Tsar Putin to come give us advice on how to properly run a kangaroo court.</p>
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		<title>By: Snake Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/11/19/thinking-it-through/comment-page-1/#comment-462308</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM, Just one more observation  re the many predicted/expected motions...

...it is taken as gospel in defense circles that if the facts in the case are against you ...you argue the law... conversely if the law in the case is against you ... you argue the facts...Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM, Just one more observation  re the many predicted/expected motions&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;it is taken as gospel in defense circles that if the facts in the case are against you &#8230;you argue the law&#8230; conversely if the law in the case is against you &#8230; you argue the facts&#8230;Best</p>
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		<title>By: Snake Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/11/19/thinking-it-through/comment-page-1/#comment-462305</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM, Rest easy your instincts are sound...Expect Holder&#039;s statements and Obamas comments to Chuck Todd in China to form the first, of many  motions for mistrial in this travesty called a trial... should be great theater. Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM, Rest easy your instincts are sound&#8230;Expect Holder&#8217;s statements and Obamas comments to Chuck Todd in China to form the first, of many  motions for mistrial in this travesty called a trial&#8230; should be great theater. Best</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/11/19/thinking-it-through/comment-page-1/#comment-462295</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm.... By &quot;shot on target&quot; I meant on the battlefield not a hit on KSM while in custody.  Now if he were to make an attempt to break free - shoot to kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;. By &#8220;shot on target&#8221; I meant on the battlefield not a hit on KSM while in custody.  Now if he were to make an attempt to break free &#8211; shoot to kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the shot is on target we won&#039;t have to worry about the administration, the media, or the courtroom.  Let&#039;s hope the guns get him (them) before the left does.  The circus is exactly what KSM/OBL want and it seems that our current leadership is inclined to play right into their plan.  Domestic terrorism using our own system to bring us down.  Forest for the trees and all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the shot is on target we won&#8217;t have to worry about the administration, the media, or the courtroom.  Let&#8217;s hope the guns get him (them) before the left does.  The circus is exactly what KSM/OBL want and it seems that our current leadership is inclined to play right into their plan.  Domestic terrorism using our own system to bring us down.  Forest for the trees and all&#8230;</p>
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