Comments on: Criminalizing the GWOT

By: Sea Dragon

Sea Dragon — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:01:00 +0000

Most JAGs don’t, some do. And that’s been the source of some heated arguments.

By: Dust

Dust — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:49:42 +0000

Marine6,
Yeah, 52 million Americans CAN have their heads up their 4th point of contact. The nation I was born in died on 5 November 2008. Not sure of what it will mutate into but since the lightweigh and his minions and handlers have taken charge. Recent events lead one to believe the future looks really grim for my sons and grandchildren. As for the second part of your comment, I noted a distinct change after the drawdown following Desert Storm. Careerism although always present going back to the Roman Legions, began making a comeback when the promotion pyramid got a lot more shallow. The system breeds a cookie cutter non-risk taker more so today IMHO. It is definitely time and I am hanging it all up now after 32 years.
Dust

By: CW4, USA, ex USN

CW4, USA, ex USN — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:57:39 +0000

I admit I missed the “cover up”, but sometimes in the heat of the moment, or in the reality of the situation, people do not associate a bloody lip with torture or abuse, and they just don’t make much of an impression. And in a group, many times one persons’ memory is the group memory when the tale is told.

No offense intended to the commenting JAGO, but most have no idea what it is like to have a round meant for you miss by enough to make you crap in your pants, and don’t know what it’s like to hold your friend/buddy/shipmate while they die, telling them it will be OK, knowing it won’t be. Do you prosecute them for covering up too?

Situation realities rule. Anyone who takes a shot at me or my folks is a candidate for thermal equilibrium. I am not going to negotiate with someone who just tried to kill me, and I am not going to turn tail and run. If our leadership does not want bloody lips, then they need to stop teaching us combatives, stop teaching us about buttstrokes (not a sexual position BTW), and probably should give us cans of silly string to confuse and confound the opposition. Not our enemy, because of the implications associated with “enemy.” They are just misunderstood children of allah who want nothing but peace. Oh, and control of the world with all the infidels dead. Not much, really……

Happy Thanksgiving to all! Last one home for a while, I think.

By: Ron Snyder

Ron Snyder — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:06:23 +0000

Sorry SeaDragon, your statement about the legalese strikes me as very PC, and is part of the problem. Oh, wait, thats right, if we do not operate by the letter of the law we would lose our “moral authority”.

We do not know all the facts yet, though from what I’ve read, my initial take is command failure to even let the events get this far. More BS than BZ IMO.

By: Ron Snyder

Ron Snyder — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:03:48 +0000

Yep. The SEALs should just have said that they were members of SEIU and all would have been forgiven. http://bit.ly/5DyK9C

By: Ron Snyder

Ron Snyder — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:46:06 +0000

Thought it was in the latter pasrt of WWII, I’ve been told by a number of WWII Combat Vets, my Father among them, that the number of Germans captured decreased significantly after the GI’s found and liberated the concentration camps.