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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Quartermaster</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/12/13/apres-east-anglia/comment-page-1/#comment-468055</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t. The failures get praise and honor. The innocent are always punished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t. The failures get praise and honor. The innocent are always punished.</p>
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		<title>By: xairboss</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/12/13/apres-east-anglia/comment-page-1/#comment-468029</link>
		<dc:creator>xairboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite Churchhill quote about Baldwin was:  &quot;Occasionally he stumbled over the truth but hastily picked himself up as if nothing had happened.&quot;  Very appropriate in describing the MSM and much of the left&#039;s reaction to Climategate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite Churchhill quote about Baldwin was:  &#8220;Occasionally he stumbled over the truth but hastily picked himself up as if nothing had happened.&#8221;  Very appropriate in describing the MSM and much of the left&#8217;s reaction to Climategate.</p>
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		<title>By: xairboss</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/12/13/apres-east-anglia/comment-page-1/#comment-468027</link>
		<dc:creator>xairboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys don&#039;t watch it, &quot;you&#039;ll shoot your eye out.&quot; It&#039;s that time of the year and I have to watch that movie at least once each Christmas season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys don&#8217;t watch it, &#8220;you&#8217;ll shoot your eye out.&#8221; It&#8217;s that time of the year and I have to watch that movie at least once each Christmas season.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When do we get to the &quot;rewards for the uninvolved&quot; stage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do we get to the &#8220;rewards for the uninvolved&#8221; stage?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in N. Calif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in N. Calif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Constitution includes the phrase &quot;[An] Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.&quot; Congress first met in 1789, and the first national census was held in 1790.

There was actually some debate about whether how and on what time table a census should have been held. In early 1790, several Congressmen argued against a census prior to the next election. Some in the Congress, who advocated an immediate census, noted that those who did not want one were the people from states which were generally regarded as being over-represented in the Congress based on the initial figures provided for in the Constitution. Others were concerned that the questions to be asked in the census, while others felt that more questions should be asked to get a better picture of the citizenry.

For example, on February 2, 1790, Samuel Livermore of New Hampshire lamented that the question about profession would be hard for his constituents to answer, since some had three or four professions, depending on the season. Connecticut Representative Theodore Sedgwick, on the same day, wondered why the questions were not extended further - &quot;The state of society could be ascertained, perhaps, in some degree, by observing [the] proportions.&quot;

The final bill, Statute 2 of March 1, 1790, provided that census marshals be appointed, directed to &quot;cause the number of the inhabitants within their respective districts to be taken; omitting in such enumeration Indians not taxed, and distinguishing free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, from all others; distinguishing also the sexes and colours of free persons, and the free males of sixteen years and upwards from those under that age.&quot; The act directed that the names of the heads of families be recorded, the number of white males sixteen and older, the number of white males under sixteen, the number of white females, the number of all other free persons, and the number of slaves. Failure of an assistant marshal to make a return, or to make a false return, was punishable by a $200 fine. Failure of a marshal to do the same was punishable by up to an $800 fine. The questions about profession, and other information Representative Sedgwick spoke of, were not made part of the final census. Census day was set at the first Monday in August, 1790. Failure to cooperate with a marshal or assistant was punishable by a $20 fine.

Today, the controlling law for the U.S. Census is Title 13 of the U.S. Code. There is a lot of census data collected in the United States today, such as economic figures, sales and production figures, and agricultural statistics. Still, the head count is the only part of the census that is called for by the Constitution. The code for the enumeration can be found in 13 USC 141. In this code, the census is directed to be taken in 1980 and every ten years thereafter, and that the count is to be taken on April 1. The returns must be completed within nine months for use in apportionment of representatives. The code also specifies a mid-decade census be taken in 1985 and every ten years thereafter. This count need not be a head count (sampling may be used) though the data cannot be used for apportionment.

The code, at §141(g), notes that &quot;As used in this section, &#039;census of population&#039; means a census of population, housing, and matters relating to population and housing.&quot;

There are fines for non-response and for false response as well, though the amount has risen from the 1790&#039;s $20. Today failure to respond can result in a $100 fine; providing false answers is a more severe offense, and carries a $500 fine. Recent news reports, however, indicate that punishment for failure to respond is not usually enforced. The controlling section of the Code is 13 USC 221.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And, the problem is, as always, that nice phrase &quot;&lt;strong&gt;in such Manner as they shall by Law direct,&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; which gives a lot of wiggle room.  I waste their time.  Anything that I can answer &quot;other&quot; I do, with copious notes about what &quot;other&quot; means. And since I will occasionally sponge off in the bedroom, or the spare room, or the garage, or the kitchen, that makes them &#039;bathrooms&#039; right?  If there are questions about &#039;electronic devices&#039;, will, just about every appliance has some sort of electronics, so those are all &#039;electronic devices&#039; aren&#039;t they?  Gotta be creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Constitution includes the phrase &#8220;[An] Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.&#8221; Congress first met in 1789, and the first national census was held in 1790.</p>
<p>There was actually some debate about whether how and on what time table a census should have been held. In early 1790, several Congressmen argued against a census prior to the next election. Some in the Congress, who advocated an immediate census, noted that those who did not want one were the people from states which were generally regarded as being over-represented in the Congress based on the initial figures provided for in the Constitution. Others were concerned that the questions to be asked in the census, while others felt that more questions should be asked to get a better picture of the citizenry.</p>
<p>For example, on February 2, 1790, Samuel Livermore of New Hampshire lamented that the question about profession would be hard for his constituents to answer, since some had three or four professions, depending on the season. Connecticut Representative Theodore Sedgwick, on the same day, wondered why the questions were not extended further &#8211; &#8220;The state of society could be ascertained, perhaps, in some degree, by observing [the] proportions.&#8221;</p>
<p>The final bill, Statute 2 of March 1, 1790, provided that census marshals be appointed, directed to &#8220;cause the number of the inhabitants within their respective districts to be taken; omitting in such enumeration Indians not taxed, and distinguishing free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, from all others; distinguishing also the sexes and colours of free persons, and the free males of sixteen years and upwards from those under that age.&#8221; The act directed that the names of the heads of families be recorded, the number of white males sixteen and older, the number of white males under sixteen, the number of white females, the number of all other free persons, and the number of slaves. Failure of an assistant marshal to make a return, or to make a false return, was punishable by a $200 fine. Failure of a marshal to do the same was punishable by up to an $800 fine. The questions about profession, and other information Representative Sedgwick spoke of, were not made part of the final census. Census day was set at the first Monday in August, 1790. Failure to cooperate with a marshal or assistant was punishable by a $20 fine.</p>
<p>Today, the controlling law for the U.S. Census is Title 13 of the U.S. Code. There is a lot of census data collected in the United States today, such as economic figures, sales and production figures, and agricultural statistics. Still, the head count is the only part of the census that is called for by the Constitution. The code for the enumeration can be found in 13 USC 141. In this code, the census is directed to be taken in 1980 and every ten years thereafter, and that the count is to be taken on April 1. The returns must be completed within nine months for use in apportionment of representatives. The code also specifies a mid-decade census be taken in 1985 and every ten years thereafter. This count need not be a head count (sampling may be used) though the data cannot be used for apportionment.</p>
<p>The code, at §141(g), notes that &#8220;As used in this section, &#8216;census of population&#8217; means a census of population, housing, and matters relating to population and housing.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are fines for non-response and for false response as well, though the amount has risen from the 1790&#8242;s $20. Today failure to respond can result in a $100 fine; providing false answers is a more severe offense, and carries a $500 fine. Recent news reports, however, indicate that punishment for failure to respond is not usually enforced. The controlling section of the Code is 13 USC 221.</p></blockquote>
<p>And, the problem is, as always, that nice phrase &#8220;<strong>in such Manner as they shall by Law direct,</strong>&#8221; which gives a lot of wiggle room.  I waste their time.  Anything that I can answer &#8220;other&#8221; I do, with copious notes about what &#8220;other&#8221; means. And since I will occasionally sponge off in the bedroom, or the spare room, or the garage, or the kitchen, that makes them &#8216;bathrooms&#8217; right?  If there are questions about &#8216;electronic devices&#8217;, will, just about every appliance has some sort of electronics, so those are all &#8216;electronic devices&#8217; aren&#8217;t they?  Gotta be creative.</p>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya got me Sheriff....yes, I had a BB gun. Funny thing, tho, can&#039;t remember what make---although seems the reptilian part of my brain-stem remembers a certain amount of pain assoc. with it, so probably was a Daisey....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya got me Sheriff&#8230;.yes, I had a BB gun. Funny thing, tho, can&#8217;t remember what make&#8212;although seems the reptilian part of my brain-stem remembers a certain amount of pain assoc. with it, so probably was a Daisey&#8230;.</p>
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