Over-rated, at the CRU:
Odd things are going on at the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.
Widely available data, existing in the public view for years, is now disappearing from public view.
Occasional readers will know that their host is skeptical on every side of this issue, but the actions of the alarmists threaten to push me over the edge.
Things we know about climate change:
- It appears to be happening now
- It seems to have happened before
- Atmospheric CO2 increases due to human activity may be a part of the current happening
- To a degree which science has most definitely not settled
- The attendant costs of “remedying” that change are enormous
- The potential costs of doing nothing are (literally) inestimable
- Some of the folks we’ve trusted to work this out for us are behaving very suspiciously
- Many of the folks clamoring most loudly for government intervention stand to profit from that intervention
Is this any way to run a planet?
“All intelligence services are bureaucracies, of course. The output is always mangled to some extent as it goes through the pipe. But when the people in the intelligence business start editing the raw data to support their policy recommendations, the output becomes fiction. It’s worse than worthless — it’s fantasy as fact, so it’s just plain dangerous. Policymakers think they’re getting the big picture and they’re making the decisions, but in reality the decision-making function has been appropriated by the person editing the data. The elected policymaker is being manipulated. He becomes a mere rubber stamp.”
Stephen Coonts ( bestselling author of Flight of the Intruder)
The Red Horseman
1993
pp.49
Well, if you are wondering about the profit motive, everyone should look at THIS recent article in the Daily Telegraph, UK. titled; “Climate-gate: with business interests like these are we really sure Dr. Rajendra Pachauri is fit to head the IPCC?”
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelil-rejendra-pachauri-is-fit-to-head-the-ipcc/
I can’t believe it-bad link again-tho it works for my bookmark! Just go to 14 Dec Daily Telegraph home page and search for article with same title by James Delingpole. There are 102 comments. A VERY enlightening read!
Here ya go, Virgil.
http://tinyurl.com/ycteudf
It is, indeed, rather odd. I’m surprised Dr. Pachauri has any time to devote to the UN, given all the boards and committees he’s heading up. Which in any other industry would be a conflict of interest, but apparently the at the UN it merely makes him more of an expert.
I don’t begrudge the man making money off his expertise and name recognition. I do begrudge his doing so by having nations tax their citizens and send it to him.
– Max
– Max
In any crime, to find the villains, all you need do is FOLLOW THE MONEY…..This crappola is like when small town have a town meeting, and someone gets up to ask for more tax dollars because, ” IT’S FOR THE CHIDREN…”
These bastards need to be exposed as the only thing they want to SAVE is our money for THEIR persoanl gain….
try this
Sorry, that should have said here is the full link.
Magic. Thanks James. I’m Harvey Hamfist tonight it seems…
Hey!
I resemble that remark…!
Part of the difficulty many people have with the debate(s) is evident by the aspersions they cast, such as, “You can’t be serious about not believing in global warming, can you?”
Well, ma’am, sez I, I believe the earth’s climate has been through many, many heating and cooling cycles during its history.
I just do not believe for an instant those claims that mankind has been responsible somehow for any of those cycles. And I agree with our host that those who clamor the loudest for some sort of IMMEDIATE and VERY EXPENSIVE remedy to this alledged man-made global disaster all seem to have a much larger agenda than simply caring for our environment.
If I express that view openly in public, a portion of the public responds with, “Well, you are just a narrow-minded polar bear hater and polluter of the worst kind, then.” Huh?
That’s the part I think they’re getting at . . . Control to make the world see it their way, regardless of the evidence to the contrary.
Cheers,
Mitch
Mitch, I respond with, “Oh, I believe in global warming all right. There was a tyrannosaur unearthed in South Dakota, several in Montana. Those places aren’t warm right now, certainly not an attractive place for a large lizard to take up residence. Fossil remains show ice sheets covering the Midwest at one point, they show ferns and other tropical vegetation in those same locations centuries before.
As CO2 in the atmosphere increases we get better crop yields, more food for all the life on this planet. As the planet warms the green belt that can sustain life moves outward from the equator. So what *is* the ideal temperature of the planet, the one that keeps the beach houses in Nantucket from flooding or the one that feeds the most people and animals and plants on the planet?”
If they fail to mention old Sol as a climate change source I can be entirely certain they’re idiots spouting pablum with no understanding. Mentioning beach houses hits them in their wealth envy region, mentioning food hits them in their organic vegetable region. The conflict of emotion generally causes them to slip their mental clutch as they search for a reason why global warming is bad if it feeds kids and floods out beachfront mansions (which it doesn’t, but they don’t know that).
At that point I’m usually told I don’t care about the children or something. My typical reply is, “On the contrary, I merely don’t care about *your* children. I care more about those children in places like Canada and Mongolia and Greenland, who might like a growing season long enough to produce fruit as well as vegetables.”
Game. Set. Match.
One day I fully expect to be punched in the face by one of these green dweebs. It is my most sincere hope that I can use that occasion to introduce them to the world of socialized medicine. In a nurturing manner, of course.
– Max
It is interesting how they ignore that the time of Columbus, there was no Polar Ice Pack, and as recently as 1947, there was a summer warm enough to open up the Northwest Passage. An RCMP patrol boat navigated it successfully. People are being hornswoggled by Lying Al Gore.
But, but, they’re so _sincere_!
(It’s very important to be sincere, and look ‘em in the eye, when producing gundecked/drylabbed reports.)
Where does the term ‘gundecking’ come from? I know what it means, but can anyone tell me the origins?
On the rants by alarmists -
If they give me the “You must be in favor of clear cutting the Sequoias, stripmining all of Yellowstone, and turning Yosemite into a landfill” tripe, I will usually say something like “You bet! And, if you will excuse me, I need to go skin a harp seal pup and then eat its still beating heart.”
If they wax poetic about going green, using CFLs, electric cars, I point out that the manufactur of CFLs is so dirty that it can’t be done in the US because of environmental and health laws, so it is done in China. And the rare earths and heavy metals that go in to electric cars. And if they go into clean burning hydrogen, which gives off only water vapor, I point out that water vapor is the most powerful of the ‘greenhouse gases.” Usually leaves them with mouth hanging open.
Speaking of “going electric” have you seen that part of Canada where the heavy metals (Lead, zinc, nickel, copper, etc.) that comprise some 80% of the world’s car batteries are mined? Like the surface of the moon in those areas. Thousands of square miles of dead vegetation due to poisonous air and water/slurry run-off. And of course the same goes for all the assoc. processing plants usually located nearby. And all THIS is with a miniscule number of electric cars! Wait until the entire world is driving those things the way the greenies want! Computers haven’t been invented yet capable of calculating the size of the expansion of the environment-destroying open-pit mines and processing plants that will be necessary to meet the demand for exotic electric car batteries.
Lots of environmental luuuve in THAT!
Well, it is just Canada, after all. Not like some place that really matters, like San Francisco, Marin, or the ANWR.
Marin. God yes…I’ve an old college flame long divorced (not from me) and making a pretty good living all on her own little lonesome selling long-term nursing home ins to boomers (and pre-boomers like she and I) living in Marin who would REALLY be pissed……
The first question is always qui bono.
Cui bono. (sorry, it’s just my inner autie spelling bee nerd talking)
How arrogant are the alarmists, telling us they know what the correct temperature is supposed to be? Maybe God intended for us to grow corn in Greenland. Ever wonder why the Vikings called it GREENland in the first place?
Reminds me of a sci fi story I read as a lad. Friendly aliens told world leaders that they could cure all the planet’s ills, but it required a 50% reduction in the population. The leaders anguished over the decision, but could not choose who should live and who should die. They left the decision up to the aliens, and at the stroke of midnight every woman on earth dropped dead.
It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!
I may be the lone wolf here, but i do believe in global warming. Just not that man is the sole or primary cause. Mother Earth does go thru cycles of hot and cold – just like any female.
We do have problems like the thawing of the permafrost. Very bad. Billions of tons of CO2 would be relased. We do have problems with the thinning of polar ice caps and consequential rise in sea level. We do have deforestation in the Amazon basin. but we also have choices: everyone go plant trees on your property. Write your elected officials and demand freight use the railways – far more efficient than any truck. One of the largest polluters is actually the world merchant fleet – VERY bad. Let the sub bubbas go spear the side of some big polluting vessel. Well OK, maybe not, but new technology is available to greatly reduce their emission footprint.
as I’ve said before, this is gonna be one of the greatest sources of frivolous spending the world has ever seen simply because we have “effect”, but we don’t have definitive proof of “cause” – despite Al The Pontificate. My old Oceanography professor is now head of an international organization firmly in the AGW camp – and all they see is millions of dollars heading their way. Who cares if it is real – it sure beats working for a living.
That’s the answer. Sink all the Merchies, NOW! Not only will we solve all of our environmental problems, but we will also have full employment since they won’t be able to import anymore Chinese junk. We can make our own junk quite well, thank you.
Its all about the money. A huge transfer from the productive parts of society to the unproductive parts. Might be worthwhile, maybe not but my question is: If what they are doing is so worthwhile why do they have to employ the power of the state to obtain their funding. I mean if its so damn good why doesn’t George Soros want a piece of funding it? Oh, I guess he probably has figured out how to get on the receiving line….
However much the Goreacle tries to ‘persuade’ us, he’s gonna have a hell of a time explaining the static data arrays in the modeling code. I keep going back to the blog posting shared by Lex over at GIStemp, and I cannot help but tremble with rage at the audacity of these mo##**F**$ers. Multiple authors who, after careful analyses by professionals a helluva lot better educated on the subject than any of us, are clearly defined as befuddled, and who, again clearly, did not know how to proceed except to fabricate data for the arrays.
All of which is known by, and perhaps directed by, the Goreacle hisself.
I was going to suggest conscripting any number of liar-yers to crew the Merchies, GM & QM, and would nominate Il Goreacle for Flotilla Commander. Being summat acquainted with a recent left coast SubGru boss, I may get some great pointers as to where and how to best git er dun.
Gee, from your recent picture, seems you’ve really aged well, Mongo! Kept that youthful “glow” I see…
After the FlotCom embarks and gets past the 100 fathom line, can we turn the 688s on them then? Or, would you rather they get past the continental shelf first.
I would suggest all the Democrat party, and most of the Republican Party as crew for the ships. Most of teh judges as well. Won’t be much room for cargo, but they’ll have everything that matters.
1. We are currently lucky enough to be living in a warm period – an interglacial period – of an ice (glacial) age that has lasted, so far, about 2.6 million years.
2. In glacial ages such as our own, there are short periods of warmth between longer periods of cold – the current interglacial period has lasted c.18000 years and is perhaps due a return to the next, long-lasting glacial period.
3. Humans do not flourish during glacial periods of ice ages. Nor do flora or fauna.
4. We need to heat this planet, cleanly, not cool it.
well said, Lex!