Credo
"Sign on, young man, and sail with me. The stature of our homeland is no more than the measure of ourselves. Our job is to keep her free. Our will is to keep the torch of freedom burning for all. To this solemn purpose we call on the young, the brave, the strong, and the free. Heed my call, Come to the sea. Come Sail with me." -- John Paul Jones
"Pardon him, Theodotus; he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature" --George Bernard Shaw, "Caesar and Cleopatra"
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."--Friedrich Nietzsche
"A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is half an approbation. They never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate."--Edmund Burke
“You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”--General Sir Charles Napier
"Μολὼν λαβέ" -- Leonidas
"Blogito Ergo Sum" -- Neptunus Lex
Not a precedent….I have personal knowledge of the SEABEEs and Corps of Engineers galvanting about the island of Guam beginning in July ’44, making roads as the pleased, shouting over their tractor engines “We’ll pay your later!”
The “later” began in the early 60s and was arbitrated well into the early 90s. we paid a lot….as the claims were for the price of land at “improved” prices, not “as is” in 44, plus interest.
Still, the assigned lawyers and land appraiser held the line as much as the juries (on Guam) would let them…defending the taxpayers dollars and all.
Good on the SECNAV! Maybe he can get involved in the LCS program next. Phib would like that.
Not just Guam. When I was there in 69-70 we were still processing claims from the natives in all the Trust Territories. In the islands, every coconut tree or banana tree belonged to someone and we paid reparations for damage to them during WWII…..probably still paying.
OSD:
I was there 67-71….lived in Apra Heights. That should be a clue.
wait’ll SECNAV finds out Frisco is broke and they can’t pay up….. %-)
The Navy could always sell it to somebody else if San Fran can’t fork over the money. It would mane a nice oil refinery or nuclear power plant.
Lets see now, Jim, when is it exactly that you were planning your next visit to SF? Ya gonna call ahead in advance?
F*ck SF! They won’t let the Marines film a commercial there on the streets, they don’t want the Might Mo in port. I vote the Navy uses it to store nukes.
Oh, no…I’d rather see nuclear waste stored there
I’m going for a gunfire support range, myself….should be a BOOM! to the economy…
Never mind…they probably won’t notice the 57mm rounds impacting.
Surprised a Native American Tribe hasn’t laid claim. Turn the durn thing into a casino.
Store nukes? There? Oh yeah, we did that. I’m not even going to address whossname. Up north, in Marin in the TVA, nucular missiles poised to unleash more than their fair share of CO2? We had that too.
To quote our host. It is to laugh.
Speaking of SF and nukes, I didn’t hear any p*****g and moaning all those years in the late 50s thru the 70s when the Army had all those Nuke-tipped Nike Ajax & Hercules AD missiles up on San Pablo ridge overlooking the bay slavishly dedicated to the protection of the good citizens of SF and surrounding environs. Damned selfish of SF keeping all those warmonger Army missile guys all to themselves…
I’m a bit worried about what SF will do with the historic structures if this includes Yerba Buena. Specifically the residence of Adm. Chester Nimitz while he was CINCPAC in WWII. A few years back, Willie Brown wanted that place as the mayor’s official residence!
According to the Potter biography of Nimitz, he had no residence in the Bay are during WW2. His wife lived in the DC area for awhile as they were living there since he was head of BuNAV at the time he was named CINCPAC. When he was called to SF for a meeting with King, she took their daughter out of school and went west. She placed their daughter in a girls camp then stayed in a hotel on the east side of the bay for much of the war. They didn’t move to Berkeley until after the war and his time as CNO. He didn’t move into the house on the Naval base until his last few months.
Knowing Willie Brown, that does not surprise me; opportunist prick!
Keeping in mind that a 1942 dollar is worth around $13 today, maybe we should put SecNav in charge of the Treasury.
I’m pretty sure he’s not qualified…he pays his taxes.
Good deal.
Cash ONLY. Their credit is even worse than the U.S. credit.
Now, if they want the IMPROVEMENTS that were made to T.I., they should be an available option, otherwise to be destroyed as bombing practice targets.
No insult to S.F. would be sufficient to replay them for their hospitality.
here’s a visual for you all: “The Annual Treasure Island Gay Pride Festival”
On the plus, hadda nice BOQ and VIP quarters when i was flag aide. Was quite an impressive view of the Embarcadero. Took the Admiral up to the Top of the Mark for a Bombay and Tonic and watch the sun set over Golden Gate. The divorcee crowd at the Navy League function were quite impressed with the golden wings and formal braid of the flag aide – until I politely said “happily married”. But THIS is California! So? Still happily married. The Admiral told me in late fall 85 that in 30 years the Navy wouldn’t be in California- this after Diane Feinstein demanded to know if we had nukes on Big E before she entered Hunter’s Point DD #4 after the merge at the Cortes Bank. he may be close to fact. Sigh.
Lex – go east young man, go east.
So I know where we put the nukes in the Bay Area. Where in the world was the Navy BOQ? I stayed at the one in Alameda and it was a dump on par with Oakland Army Base. Did we have a classy one on TI? And nobody told me!?
I’m a product of the 60s so I tend to stay away from Squares. Sorry dude, couldn’t resist. Jack London’s has a little tiny bar hauled out of Alaska. Wood everywhere. Always brings the MSOs to mind. Union had the very first bookstore I was ever in that has an escalator. An escalator in a bookstore!
Some of you amaze me. Even when the Navy scores a coup on the fools of SF, you complain. Me? I find the damned flat chunk of mud worthless. Enslaved to the whims of the Bay Bridge, cold, miserable, windswept unaeshthetic mass of nothingness with front row seat view of both Sodom and Gomorrah. And I speak from first hand knowledge, as I’ve walked a few miles in my own shoes on that damnable spit of land over the course of my Navy daze. Not much to visit on either side of the attachment to civilization either, as I found out again just yesterday. Spent the morning in Jack London Square, and the afternoon/evening in Union Square. Freaks, flakes, losers, and greedy do-nothingers on both sides. Give it to ‘em. Let them continue the building of their social amusement park. Glad I live just outside the blast zone.
Yeah, they’ll buy it with our money ie: Pelosi-Health care bill-Pork.
In the Defense bill she earmarked a ton of your money for the city.
Neighbor Lee,
You Amaze me!
That blast zone in the east bay started so very close to Alameda didn’t it? There was another one you know or 3 or more. Right there on Angel Island with those awful missiles.
Longish whatchamacallit gone. I would just like to raise the names of Mike Royko, Herb Caen and Michael Kelly.
Very much like our host, they had a way with words.
Virgil,
The only way I would be going to San Francisco would be on business and my company doesn’t pay me enough to go there.