Credo
"Sign on, young man, and sail with me. The stature of our homeland is no more than the measure of ourselves. Our job is to keep her free. Our will is to keep the torch of freedom burning for all. To this solemn purpose we call on the young, the brave, the strong, and the free. Heed my call, Come to the sea. Come Sail with me." -- John Paul Jones
"Pardon him, Theodotus; he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature" --George Bernard Shaw, "Caesar and Cleopatra"
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."--Friedrich Nietzsche
"A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is half an approbation. They never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate."--Edmund Burke
“You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”--General Sir Charles Napier
"Μολὼν λαβέ" -- Leonidas
"Blogito Ergo Sum" -- Neptunus Lex
Besides the fact that we’re not all on the same page, we’re not even reading the same Book.
In the same universe…..
Oh. Would that I could have been a racist too, but there were other things on my schedule yesterday. I’ll have to save being a racist for another day…
I coulda been a racist, too, but they won’t let us drive faster than 40kmh over here.
Except when we’re being shot at.
But when that happens, nobody’s looking at the speed-o-meter, so it dun’t count…
BillK — same book? They don’t even use the same accounting system we do.
They chirp about creating 1,200 part-time jobs in January and February as a sign the “Stimulus” is working and ignore the 56,000 full-time jobs that got flushed down the memory hole during the same period. The good news is, they only need to create 10,998,800 more part-time jobs and everybody who’s lost one during the past 14 months will at least have some form of income…
There is no intolerance like the Left’s intolerance of anyone who disagrees with them.
All of those years and hippie rallies and words that painted the Conservative as the one who wanted to control private citizens, impose their own moral standards, invade personal space and rule with repressive ideals?
Yeah, I know. I wish I could laugh.
With healthcare costs skyrocketing, and an uninsured illness can indeed bankrupt the solvent, most everyone needs some form of health insurance, expensive though it may be. Far too many millions of Americans are exposed to this unnecessary risk.
Would it be reasonable to assume that most all those protestors do in fact have health insurance? Is this a case of I’ve got mine – my medical lifeboat – and the heck with those that don’t? Just let ‘em drown in illness and red ink?
If you think the government can run health care as well as it’s run the Post Office, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — you just might have a death wish.
Health insurance, and health care are two different animals.
I am fortunate to be “triple-insured,” all by govenment healthcare programs – VA, Tricare for Life, and Medicare. I have never had better coverage, or care in my life! And I still see the same primary care civilian doctor i have had for years, when I was covered by employer provided insurance. But now I pay nothing yet have better screening and preventive care, than I did when I shared the premiums and payed a hi co-pay. Don’t knock it until you try it.
But now I pay nothing yet have better screening and preventive care, than I did when I shared the premiums and payed a hi co-pay.
Oh. You’re welcome.
JofA – I certainly can empathize with your plight. And you are sadly not alone. There are just too many unfortunate millions like you.
But you could – and should – have similar, excellent government-sponsored health insurance and care as I do, if we can ever get a decent healthcare and health insurance bill passed.
My highly educated and recently married son with a child on the way just got his pink slip last week. Now with no income, it will be impossible to pay nearly $1,000 a month for continuing health insurance even with COBRA, while trying to hold on to his home and even put food on the table. … Especially with CA private insurance rates suddenly jumping 35% recently!
And even if he could afford it, he has a pre-existing condition that would deny him coverage anyway. Catch 22. The system is broken.
10 years ago, I needed a $14,000 operation that my private insurance company refused to pay. Through my personal negations with the hospital, I finally got the charge reduced to $7,000. Why? Because they told me $14 grand is what they charge the private insurance companies, but the hospital can still make a profit for $7 grand less. Private individuals, or their employers have to and do pay for that 100% overcharge! (Regardless of the many reasons for this, we all still pay for it directly and indirectly.) And yet the insurance companies still make record profits at twice the real cost of care!
Now that is a whole lot of “suckage” in the private sector. The public sector, if done properly, can and will to a lot better for you and everyone, and at a much reduced cost.
Now that is a whole lot of “suckage” in the private sector. The public sector, if done properly, can and will to a lot better for you and everyone, and at a much reduced cost.
DLS — Your son will be paying more — not less — under the government-run program. According to the CBO analysis, the insurance plans the Senate bill would require families to purchase would cost an average of — $15,200 per year.
And Tricare for Life is the *only* part of Tricare which will remain intact.
As you asked upstream referring to the protesters, “Is this a case of I’ve got mine – my medical lifeboat – and the heck with those that don’t?” the answer is, “Yup — you’ve got yours.”
“Now that is a whole lot of “suckage” in the private sector. The public sector, if done properly, can and will to a lot better for you and everyone, and at a much reduced cost.”
Citation Needed.
But now I pay nothing yet have better screening and preventive care, than I did when I shared the premiums and payed a hi co-pay. Don’t knock it until you try it.
I have VA (theoretically — the VA hospital administration insists that I produce a referral from an *active duty* physician any time I try to make an appointment) and Tricare (for which I am liable for a goodly co-pay).
You must live in an area where the VA actually gives a flying f*ck does what it’s supposed to be doing — since I live in an area with a large vet population, I get the benefit of seeing “rationed care” first hand.
The VA’s one reason I work in Iraq. If I get injured or sick, I *know* I’ll get treatment.
Flit
I too share those same perks of service to this great nation. For how long, who knows? This debacle of a spending bill may make all that moot.
So, you answered your own question from above fliterman. You’re a TRIPLE-DIPPER. That usually even costs more at the ice cream store! I’d say you’ve got yours… and then some! (Of course, I do recall that you’ve earned it and do need it, but you are well cared for.)
BTW, if the ObamaCare is so very, very good, why did they need to roll the Federal Student Loan Program into it? Could it have been to prop up the dollars in the loss column? What kind of magical accounting trick is this… and which year will they begin counting the profits? Will they count from now or from when the plan goes into effect in four (4) years? Answer that and you’ll learn more about CONTROL and phony accounting, I’ll wager!
If it was about “health care” — why will we have to pay beginning *this* year when no benefits will start until 2013? If it’s such a good deal for the American people, why did the Congers specifically *exempt* themselves and their families from having to purchase it? If it’s supposed to ultimately pay for itself — as Obie-Won has stated on several occasions — and help *reduce* the deficit, why did OMB announce that the deficit will jump an additional $1.17 trillion if ObieCare takes effect?
Don’t kid yourself — it was never about reforming health care. It’s about grabbing economic control of a major part of the economy.
I have no Health Insurance. I pay cash when I can. I had my child by emergency c-section when I had no insurance, young and unprepared,and paid the bill over time. I was not turned away. Now, I have no insurance because of the depressive monetary realities of life these last 18 months.
Health Insurance was created for unexpected realities and high costs of innovative extremes. Health care never used to be a part of that strategic investment. It was simply a cost incurred and paid, much like the upkeep on your vehicle. I assure you, if the Insurance Industry had come up with a community underwritten strategy for auto repair (oh wait!. . .) people would clamor for that as a “right” as well.
There are costs, strategies for meeting the unexpected, and services rendered in any social undertaking of life. Any time the government shoves its oar in, there’s bound to be an eddy of money-suckage that lessens every option.
No to ObamaCare, and thanks for playing the “heartless” card. Works as poorly as the “racist” card.
Is this a case of I’ve got mine – my medical lifeboat – and the heck with those that don’t? Just let ‘em drown in illness and red ink?
Sweet Jebus Flit – just because someone doesn’t want to see their great great grandchildren pay for this debacle – they are heartless.
No one in this country is truly w/out healthcare. No E.R. can refuse to treat someone just because of the status of their healthcare?
Is that the best solution? Of course not. However allowing the pendulum to swing so far in the other direction to create a nationalized health plan – and don’t kid yourself if you think that’s not next – will bankrupt this country.
You say you enjoy 3 different kinds of healthcare. As a veteran I would never begrudge you that kind of care – you earned it defending this country.
However, who do you think pays for it?
Election day becomes more meaningful all the time.