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May DayBy lex, on October 2nd, 2010
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Both the Glen Beck 8/28/2010 rally and the 9/12/2009 March had many more people participating, with much less trash each time. My hypothesis is that the Glen Beck and 9/12 participants are more mature and more committed to public good that the Left / Socialist / Communist participants at today’s rally. Another data point is Obama’s Inauguration parade left the route covered with literally tons of trash.
Different world views, different outcomes.
I was going to say that today’s participants were deliberately messy to mask their numbers. They wanted people to think “There’s more trash than at the Beck rally, there must have been more people.”
It’s also the “collective mindset” someone will take care of it…like they all expect the Fed Tax coffers to fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgages, and like below, a rationale to fund union rate work forces….make work in other words, just like the Communists did from the “Centralized Economy.”
Don’t you realize, the litter was planted by the VR-WC?
There is a plus to all this. Union workers can get much needed overtime to pick up the mess.
Next, cue Flit to appear from Stage Left and say that (1.) millions were present at this rally, and (2.) the Movement has nothing to do with advancing Socializm.
I would agree with Flit. It has nothing to do with Socialism, but, instead, with advancing ‘Progressive Ideas’.
Socialism is so last century, where Progressive Ideas takes Socialism to a different level. Sophisticated and clever. Appealing on an intellectual level, and sensuously attractive in its beguilement. Socialism could never achieve that.
Excellent point.
The photo illustrates what may have been “shovel ready” all along.
Unfortunately, it has been uncomposted fertilizers emanating from from D.C.
But that is probably just my opinion.
The trash (and other behavioral symptoms) are all perfectly logical. Liberalism is a morally immature frame of mind.
It’s been shown scientifically:
http://www.agoyandhisblog.com/2009/09/01/compromising-with-moral-adolescence-a-losing-strategy/
Of course they would deny it, and sometimes violently, but there you have it.
Best regards, Peter Warner.
I’ve seen this study several times and while I have have some issues with it (for reasons my brain is too weary to go into this evening)I will utterly agree with the following statements from Haidt (and have referenced them quite a few times this month when many of my very liberal friends ask me what is UP with my web browsing preferences they’ve unearthed about me recently. (Wink)
“If social justice researchers and activists want to make progress and be consistent with their own values, they will have to understand, respect, and work with the moral concerns of people with whom they disagree.
If Democrats want to understand what makes people vote Republican, they must first understand the full spectrum of American moral concerns. They should then consider whether they can use more of that spectrum themselves. … Unity is not the great need of the hour, it is the eternal struggle of our immigrant nation. The three Durkheimian foundations of ingroup, authority, and purity are powerful tools in that struggle. Until Democrats understand this point, they will be vulnerable to the seductive but false belief that Americans vote for Republicans primarily because they have been duped into doing so.”
I think this is so important. And I wish it was something *everyone* would do. Because swimming in waters with people who disagree with you to various degrees will teach you more about yourself and your beliefs than you would ever learn sitting in a bubble of comfort surrounded by people who all conform to your way of thinking. I pretty much exclusively watch Fox News. My blog and feed reads are full of conservative sources. And I am definitely in the minority when it comes to location, friends and family. And I like this place.
In fact, I would comfortably say that I spend the majority of my time exchanging thoughts on politics on conservative grounds. And that is not me trying to be confrontational, it is me trying to expose myself to a differing thoughts.
It’s not easy and it can be difficult to navigate sometimes. I’m a bit thin-skinned and a lot soft-hearted for many of the opinions I read concerning things I support and believe in, but I believe it does me much more good in the end than not. Not only do I feel it is essential for making an informed decisions about issues and where I stand on them, but I always meet many wonderful people to add to my hugely eclectic list of friends and seen points of view I would have probably missed out on if I only hung out in ‘safe’ places.
So, I don’t know. Maybe I could be considered morally immature, but I’d like to think not.
Night, all.
This is another example of how correlation does not give us any information about causation. I don’t think people are morally immature because they’re liberals, I think that morally immature people are drawn to liberal philosophies. That means when you pull a random sample of liberals you’re going to find a higher percentage of the morally immature.
Generalities are useless. Saying liberals are emotionally immature is like saying pilots are childish primadonnas who spend more time fixing their hair than working, or that snipes are illiterate troglodytes who get confused by words longer than “hammer”.
You must not really know many pilots…..
Reread the first sentence in the paragraph. There are only 3 words, I’ll wait.
Jeff,
Lighten up. I was being a wise ass in view of the number of pilots that hang around this bin.
Best,
Dust
Jeff, please tell me you have a blog I can read somewhere.
And of course Wikipedia doesn’t once mention the communist origins of the “holiday”, instead trying to mask it as an ancient multicultural tradition.
Correcting the “article” is useless, the ever politically correct staff would just revert it in minutes.
J.T.W.
Correct. Been there, done that.
The major reason that Wiki is useless is the people in the background. Jerry Pournelle tried to correct the article about his political spectrum that he wrote for his Dissertation. It was changed back within minutes. I never use the place because it is so unreliable. John Derbyshire thinks it’s too handy to ignore. Needless to say I disagree with him. It’s best to stay away from the place.
The trashing of sites where “progrssives” rally is so typical of them. Peter is correct. The immaturity of the left has been a point raised quite a bit around here.
But of course, QM, Wiki is just another example along with Google , You Tube, academia, Hollywood and the MSM, of how the left still largely controls the social discourse in all ways large and small. We should not deceive ourselves into believing that talk radio and the internet has pried loose the left’s near strangle-hold–nay, death-grip–on the nation’s waking consciousness. A single finger perhaps, and better than nothing, but we’re still definitely swimming upstream on this. It’s a sisyphusian task and if somebody like Pournelle can’t even be allowed to correct his own bio, it seems to me we are suffering the death of a thousand cuts every day–it’s like background radiation; ever-present 24/7 and with the inevitable attendant long-term deleterious effects on the collective psyche of the average, basically non-political citizen. A very subtle, almost un-noticeable form of brainwashing/thought suggestion. And, quite frankly, soooper genius tho I may be, I am totally at a loss as to how to successfully counter it across the full-spectrum long-term. It’s like air pollution. No massive govt agency spending billions of dollars and wasting an equal number of man-hours sits around plotting about how to produce it–yet it all gets up there for free anyway…but think of the unbelievable cost in money and time it takes to scrub it out/reduce it..
VX
The only cure is to amputate and eliminate the slow but inevitable spread of gangrenous sinisterus. We’ll keep the lovely southern half of the US and give them the wastelands of the north. Pretty soon their socialist utopia will look like downtown Detroit’s more unhealthy sections.
No disrespect intended for those of y’all of the more dexterous (rightly) persuasion. We will still open the gates for ya. And leave the clueless blivets behind.
How far south? See, I’ve grown attached to breathing the air, not swimming through it.
I’m more of a mind to close the gates, then after the Flits of the north finish destroying the place, we walk in a take over. Then we fly the 3rd National over the entire place.
I saw what you did, there. You tried to get a rise out of Flit, and you succeeded. If I were just a spectator, here for the Lulz, I would think that funny. But hey, we’re trying to find ways to get the Republic to climb out of the hole it’s in! Aren’t we?
Well, at least this excessively-earnest socially-awkward guy is trying to do that.
Must one assume then, upon observing the trash left at the stadium after an NFL football game, that only Progressive’s and those nasty ‘Socialists’ (or worse) must have attended?
Quite obviously, our wonderfully neat and fastidious Tea Partiers and Conservatives must have stayed home to watch the game on TV.
Ya, that’s it. Ya think?
Flit, As Loralee postulated above, I too believe exposure to differnt perspectives is not only fun, but necessary. That’s the reason I always eagerly anticipate your participation in this forum. Morally immature you are not. However, in this case, your analogy falls short of the mark.
Obfuscation does that change the stark, observable contrast between two disparate groups claiming the moral, societal, high ground. And additionally, that high ground being advocated for on what both sides call sacred ground. Beck was excoriated for somehow co-opting the sacredness of Dr. King’s day and the hallowed ground he stood upon to deliver his historic speech. But then the excoriators become desecrators. Ironic, no?
Lastly, at a raucous NFL venue, with vast numbers of the funs being under the temporarily pleasant spell of alcohol, one might expect such behavior. (sadly) But who could possibly discern whether a tea party type, or progressive type abandoned their trash. Whereas, at the two competing rallies, the assignation of guilt is not in question.
I can’t believe y’all are talking trash here! I’m shocked!
Yes, I think..us Tea Partiers and Conservatives can’t afford the price of the tickets..only progressives can attend..we are all home watching…lol Flit..You are an original..but a very dedicated one..if I say so myself..
Now don’t be bitter, Flit… In my [not very encyclopedic] experience attending football games in my younger days, most football game attendees tend to be on the younger, noisier side, and to have LOTS of jumping up and down energy to keep them warm in the outdoor stadia. Us older folks, many of whom have dragged our arthritic bodies out to demonstrate at the Tea Parties, no longer have the youthful vigor to go to unheated stadia to sit for hours, or stand, to root for our teams. But we still pick up our trash where we do demonstrate, dear man, and try to leave the place as neat as it was when we got there.
Evidently, the younger, noisier folks feel no need to do that. We old geezers should take some responsibility for not teaching the children lessons in neatness. Shame on us. Tut-tut on them.
Marianne
Hah! We were on the mall yesterday doing the walking tour when this was forming up. By the time we made it to the VN Wall, they were maybe 20K strong (about lunch time). We scooted on outa there quick like to the more somber environ of Arlington NC to see the changing of the guard. Upon our arrival back at Foggy Bottom Metro Station in late afternoon, the opening doors of our train were met with a sea of green shirted lefties… and they would not yeild even a narrow passage for my kids to exit the train.
Words were exchanged, and wife and I immediately labeled as racist. We beat a hasty retreat to the safety of the Embassy Suites.
The trash on the Mall today is unbelevable. Can’t wait for them all to leave so we can resume our vacation unmolested.
I think that associating and/or conversing with those of diametrically held positions has an overstated value. It speaks (tacitly) of a sort of relativism rather than a fully orbed embrace of objective truth.
I have zero desire to argue gravity as if there were a possibility of its non-existence. No one authentically lives in such a fashion; if someone is so convinced of their position then allow them the liberty of hurling themselves over a precipice. Just do not expect me to sit there babbling things like “I see what you mean” or “I am glad that works for you”. Think of the phrase “He does not suffer fools easily”. What on earth DOES that mean if there are none?
Why bother when you know the philosophy behind the positions is bankrupt from the beginning.
People such as Flkit try to make a difference between Liberalism, Socialism and Marxism. Frankly, that dowg won’t hunt. When you throw Fascism into the mix you get the full spectrum of the variations of statism that are just variations on a theme.
Gray, I know exectly what you mean about fools. No thinking man suffers them gladly.
It’s amazing how pig-like all too many Americans are….they think nothing of throwing trash everywhere they go.
BUT….explain this….I’ve attended the airshow at Oshkosh probably 20 times or more over the years. It’s usually attended by FAR more people during the week, and I NEVER see trash on the ground. Is it a mid-west thing? An aviation enthusiast thing? We can’t all be conservatives there, can we? Or maybe we can….the gov’t doesn’t give away free aircraft to everyone, do they?
Two words: FOD walkdown.
Jeff – I think it has more to do with the fact that the Oshkosh crowd comes together in an activity which they greatly respect and with people whom they respect as well.
I’ve been to Oshkosh a number of times and there is a sense of corporate responsibility among its attendees to be “good stewards” of their immediate environment.
If everyone in our country had the same attitude about the way they go about their lives, this country would be a far better place.
When I first saw the picture and was informed of the nature of the group that left the mess, I was saddened.
But, not surprised….
I mind the last Aviation Day they had at the Naples, FL. airport. There were polite aerophiles everwhere, taking pictures, being helpful, and paying attention when somebody was about to start up a Merlin or Double Wasp. There were cops there, but they looked all lost and hopeless, as we were pretty much self-policing. I recall being asked to push on a T-28′s flap to get it moving when it was started up, so the guy would not have to open the throttle so much as to suddenly charge into the crowd. I felt honored to do so. I got to stand behind an F4U and a P-51 when they were started up, so as to get the full sensory experience. All of us aficionados were looking in all directions, being aware of how to behave around airplanes.
As I said above, the cops who were present seemed quite bewildered, not knowing how to deal with responsible free grownups.
By those who know how serious the consequences of FOD can be.
zippersuit … Those who attend airshows are generally professional military, and their families, not civilians. And professional military, bless them and you, believe in field-stripping their cigarette butts and cleaning up after themselves. I don’t think it’s a matter of what their political convictions are, it’s a matter of how grown-up and responsible they are. And lots of our military are grown-up before they’re old enough to vote.
Congress has been hiver-havering about the voting age for just years, and right now I can’t remember whether it’s 21, or has been moved back to 18. Forgive an old lady’s faltering memory…
Marianne
Hey! I’m a civilian, and lurve airshows, and attend them at every opportunity. And back in the last few years of my smoking life, I rolled my own, scattered teh unburnt ‘baccy on the beach, and put the paper in the trash bins.
One of my earliest childhood memories is of being helped up to gaze into the cockpit of an F-!00, when the Thunderbirds were in Miami back in 1955 or 1956. My Dad used to take me out to Corrosion Corner at the Miami airport, and we watched some of the earliest jet airliners take off. Ah, Corrosion Corner! I remember the sad PBY with the fluttering fabric fragments hanging off its wing, and the huge cans with the radial engines in them!
If anyone attempted to take his kid to do that today, of course, he’d be policified to such an extent as maybe to suffer violent Government Death.
Loving airplanes, and taking pictures of them, are not crimes.
Marianne…Hiver-havering??
Pardon my ignorance.
Guy C … ‘Hiver-havering’ is a Scottish expression for teetering back and forth unable to make up one’s mind. It stuck in my mind from childhood because it’s such a good way of saying it. Like my Granny’s expression “never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you.”
And you’re not ignorant. No one with the curiosity to ask questions ever is. I’ve spent my life asking ‘what’s that’ which is why I come off as such a know-it-all sometimes. That and surviving until 82 years old.
Marianne
Gray – not sure if you meant me or not… but we didn’t choose this date to associate with those types. It was just when my kids had a break in school and we thought a decent time of year for a visit. We were victims of circumstance I tell ya!
And they wouldn’t let us off the friggen’ metro train…
Lee,
No, it was not you, simply a generalized position.