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CHENG » Lasing a Police HeloBy lex, on October 3rd, 2011
October 3rd, 2011 | Tags: buffoonery | Category: buffoonery
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If the helo pilot could have used the 20mm, it would have been. At least, very briefly.
Following hte incident, shares for FLIR Systems were up by 3%.
Stew-pit never ends.
This is footage from an L3 Wescam unit…guessing an MX-15 or MX-20 by the focal lengths demonstrated here.
Should have had a nice missile firing in there to fix the problem.
Yup, I must fit in right nice here. I was going to say that you kmow you’ve been watching too many miitary videos when your first thought is too bad they couldn’t just drop something that would make a really bang on top of the idjuts but somehow that seems redundant now.
Some helos in LA carry 1 Megawatt searchlights. That would have been a great response, but only just as the patrol cars cornered the scum.
ITT NIGHTSUNS, Death Beam searchlights.
Dumbass…
I wonder what his point was. Byron pretty much nails it.
I am an Astronomy Merit Badge counselor in the Boy Scouts. I have a green 5 mW laser that I use for a star pointer, so I can help the kids understand the various bright stars and constellations. It’s a lot more useful for that than any of the standard red lasers people use for Powerpoint presentations, etc.
At no point do I give any of the kids control of the laser. If I hand it over to an adult I tell them “If you point this at a plane, even fleetingly, you can expect a visit from the FBI real quick. Don’t do it. If you can’t tell if something is a plane or a satellite, presume it’s a plane and act accordingly.”
In a perfect world it would result in a Hellfire aimed to the middle of his head.
I have deleted what I first wrote, as I believe that my sentiments about copperfloppers and what should be done to them would prolly get me a visit from guys with badges, if I expressed them explicitly.
As one who makes a living in “Ghettobirds” I appreciate your self-restraint. I refrained from typing the first few expressions that came to my mind as I read your drivel.
Hughes 500 NOTAR?
AS-350, UH-60, DHC-8
Even if I were willing to violate the law (I am not!), the furthest and most heinous thing I would ever even contemplate only in my dreams would be sabotaging the things on the ground in such a way they couldn’t even get the engines started, and thus not put anybody’s life or safety at risk.
I do offer the local copperflopper a middle-finger salute whenever I see it, usually when it’s shining that searchlight down on people going about their lawful business.
When I think of police helicopters, I think of “1984″.
funny, when I hear “police helicopter”, I think of things like this – http://www.wbal.com/absolutenm/templates/story.aspx?articleid=67457&zoneid=3 ; http://henry1.com/beach-rescue/ ; http://www.eurocopterusa.com/news_operator_profiles/2009/09-3-09-Heroism_award_Maryland_Police_AS365_crew.asp
YMMV…
My mileage does indeed vary.
I hope you never find youself on the side of the road, strapped to a Stokes Basket, waiting for the helo that isn’t coming, because it’s pilot got lased.
Medevac copters are not the same as copperfloppers.
And, further: Long ago I decided just which circumstances would justify my accepting a ride to the hospital in a cop car. I decided that a compound fracture of a femur would allow me to accept such a ride.
If it were just a busted ankle, and the hospital were less than two miles away, I’d rather crawl than accept police transport.
I really do believe that cops are, in general, evil.
Oh noes! Teh mean po-po is shining his searchlight of tyranny towards me!
Dude, you have serious issues.
Yes, I do. They are very annoying to me, and should annoy you, too, were you to think about them a bit.
Hehehehehehe. If you can see him….he can see you much better than you could possibly believe.
6:1 the kid’s father does not live in his home.
He is almost a guaranteed frequent customer for the continuing boom in trial lawyers, prosecutors and judges. Thank goodness, modern society does not encourage misfits, or we might need more prisons, parole officers, and police as well.
Guardians who raise criminals should have their federal receipts (earned income credits, tax refunds, etc.) reduced by amounts equal to what the Justice system spends on trial, parole or incarceration if convicted by a jury of taxpayers.
We got lased by a green 5 mW astronomy laser on the downwind leg of a night PAR off RWY 3 somewhere in Oxnard. We did our best to talk ATC onto target after repeatedly getting flashed. Powerful and blinding.
We were lased by a 5 mW green astronomy laser somewhere near Oxnard – on the downwind leg of a night PAR on RWY 21. We did our best to talk ATC onto target with no luck. Blinding and powerful. Didn’t help the crosswind landing about ten minutes later.
Those lasers really do bad things to X-wind landings.
Not when your night vision is degraded just prior, no.
Did this arrest really need 5-4 cars and a couple dozen officers? Slow night in town?
Often such things provide the evening’s entertainment for the cops. I have no idea where that is, but if it’s LA, or some such similar city, you’d think the Cops would have bigger fish to fry.
just as in the military, cops will protect their own. if an “officer needs assistance” call goes out, you’ll get every car in the area to that location just as fast as they can drive there.
from the radio conversation and the video, there were only two cars on that call, which is normal for a street with two entrances like that. ICBW, but it sounded like the call for more cares was for another incident. i’m guessing many of the adult figures on the lawn at the end were the allegedly “responsible adults” who belonged to the smaller idiot.
Blinding a police helo pilot can get the helo crew and people on the ground killed. Do that, or attempt to do that and expect a call from a bunch of very angry Badgers. As redC1c4 noted, we look out for our own, as nobody else will.
That is an horrible heinous crime no matter who is flying the aircraft. An awful lot of the FAA’s rules have to do with not letting your aircraft fall on people and hurt them. Most any pilot will increase his chance of dying by trying to get his failing aircraft to a field with no people in it. I mind the Avro Vulcan which went in at Chicago, many years ago.
Wilbur and Orville did recommend that people not fly over cities.
Don’t do that to a Coast Guard helo. With our new AUF (airborne use of force) kit, we can and will shoot back.
Seriously? I’m surprised that being lased is sufficient justification to use deadly force, at least outside of a war zone.
A car isn’t a lethal weapon until someone uses it in such a manner. Lasing a pilot is such a manner. It’s not easy being blind and landing a helicopter. To the extent the laser may not permenantly blind the pilot; I doubt the pilot understands the intent of the person on the ground is just to be an asshole.
You inspired me to perform a little personal ignorance reduction. It turns out Wikipedia has an entire page on lasers & aviation safety: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasers_and_aviation_safety
So, now I get the idea that it’s a more serious problem than I had at first realized. Definitely not something to toy with. Even so, I still think that firing into an urban area would be an excessive response, and I’m surprised that the Coast Guard would allow or condone that as GrizzledCoastie implied.
Then again, perhaps it’s only allowed in non-urban or offshore situations, which would make more sense. Still seems excessive, though.
Methinks the puddle pirate…err..my DHS partner.. is jesting.
Agreed with chuck that some of it is over-the-top jesting, but I understand the underlying sentiment. I’m glad I inspired you to consider the otherside of the situation.
I disagree with your later comment. Lasing a helicopter pilot over a populated area is far more dangerous to the pilot and people on the ground than a gunman in the helicopter returning fire. First, there are usually 3 souls on that helicopter. Their job is to save lives of others in danger, and the laser is hampering that effort. More to the point, if they are in a populated area (your scenario, not mine) and both pilots are blinded; then their is increased likelihood the helicopter will crash into the populated area causing far more destruction than a few bullets. The guy with the laser is a threat to the pilots, everyone aboard the aircraft, and anyone below the flightpath of the aircraft; even without the aircraft returning fire. If the helicopter can defend itself; then it’s more than just self-defense in a populated area.
Attempting to blind the flight crew is an attack on the helo. Self defense is allowed.
Oh come on.
Shining a light at someone, even a laser, is not in the same ballpark as firing a gun at them. It ain’t even the same sport. And it certainly doesn’t justify opening fire in a populated area.
Byron beat me to it – dumbass!
Not knowing or more likely not caring about the repercussions.
How about instead of dropping iron on a dumb citizen (as opposed to a combatant citizen) can you hit the dope with a fuscia paint bomb that smells like a squad of skunks? Would suck to be the arresting officer but at least you would know you had your criminal.
Byron has a way with words. If I recall correctly all those lasers, especially the more powerful green lasers, come with a warning not to point them at people. Maybe that dope took the warning as an invitation to do it and see what would happen. Wonder how many injuries he has from ignoring warnings. Wonder if he has a rap sheet.
He does now.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000032—-000-.html
Maybe the copperfloppers could switch to inrrared-only viewing. It works better at night, anyway, and if they don’t shine fifty-gazillion candle-power xenon searchlights at us, we would not be so inclined to shine the same right back at them, or green lasers, or middle fingers, or thumbs on noses. (I have done the latter two, many times)
If they just want to intimidate us, they don’t need the annoying bullying searchlights. We can see their running lights, and hear the unmistakeable beat of that two-bladed flopping Bell rotor or the 3/4 beat of the even cheaper Hughes rotor.
Igor Sikorsky and Charley Kaman were Christian gentlemen. As such, neither ever built a Police Helicopter.
Cops ain’t got no business with helicopters.
Umm, that should have been “infrared.” Sorry, folks.