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Hatin’ on Tebow

By lex, on December 14th, 2011

What is this?

I don’t even.

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December 14th, 2011 | Tags: | Category: buffoonery

72 comments to Hatin’ on Tebow

  • Joe in N Calif
    December 14, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Lex, Tebow is one who hasn’t learned that he is supposed to be ashamed of his faith and hide it. So he must be a narrow-minded, knuckle-dragging misogynistic, homophobic racist.

    • Quartermaster
      December 14, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      But, but, but, if he wins the Super Bowl us wild eyed Christians will kill every Jew, Pagan, Muslim, (insert your favorite target here), in celebration. You know how those Christians can be when they celebrate such things.

      • Joe in N Calif
        December 14, 2011 at 8:05 pm

        Is that the signal for that to start? I missed the meeting.

        • Quartermaster
          December 15, 2011 at 3:37 pm

          If you’re going to be part of these “general hatred of humanity” conspiracies, you need to come to the meetings. This is particularly important if you want to help us get Armageddon off the ground.

  • Kris, in New England
    December 14, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    I don’t get all the hulabaloo about Tebow either. It boggles my mind that the writer spent all that space – on a football quarterback. Suddenly Tebow’s faith and his public expressions of it are cause to worry about the demise of the Republic.

    Let me help the writer a bit:

    Tebow = gifted athlete who is a Christian

    That … is all.

  • Kris, in New England
    December 14, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Further, I think what is really at the heart of the Tebow-hate is the fact that his mother choose LIFE for her son.

    Tim Tebow is living proof that doctor’s are not perfect and that in fact, abortion isn’t the answer to the burden of pregnancy (as Obama put it).

    Tim Tebow is living proof that choosing life sometimes has amazing results.

  • Daryle
    December 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Many of us like Tebow for reasons unrelated to his professions of faith, which I can honestly say I have heard directly from him. I like the guy because he is playing the NFL QB position like a football player, not like a modern QB. I am so tired of seeing QB’s run and slide or step out of bounds rather than fight for an additional yard. I’m tired of seeing QB’s jump up looking for a flag every time they get knocked down. I’m tired of Brady/Brees/Rogers like QB’s throwing for 400+ yards and scoring 40+ points via passing TD’s. In today’s NFL you aren’t supposed to be able to win without having a Brady/Brees/Rogers do those things. That’s why I like him. Like Doug Flutie he doesn’t fit the mold. He just wins.

    Aside from that, he seems like a nice kid. I’d rather root for him that for someone like Ndamakin Suh. (sorry I might have spelled that first name incorrectly.)

    As for his religion and professions thereof, I wouldn’t care less if he said he were a Druid.

    Oh yeah, The author implied that the Pats are hated in part because they have the most identifiably Jewish owner. Nothing about Kraft led me to think he was Jewish. I didn’t know that until the author said it. A lot of us came to hate the Pats because they cheated and when they got caught red handed they weren’t contrite, they were reinforced their unsportsmanlike behavior by running up the score on classy coaches like Joe Gibbs.

    • Surfcaster
      December 14, 2011 at 5:53 pm

      Spoken like a Nu Yorker ;)

      Actually, everyone in New England knows the Krafts are Jewish and anyone not a bigot really doesn’t care. He and his wife (she passed late this summer) are great members of the community up here and help in all kinds of charities.

      I did not get to read the articles as it seems to be missing from the link and even a search of Tebow comes up empty on that site. Personally, as a Pat’s fan, I’m looking for a good game this weekend.

      • Kris, in New England
        December 15, 2011 at 6:49 am

        Indeed. In fact I have first-hand knowledge of just what a good person Bob Kraft is. Some years ago the CEO of my employer at the time, auctioned off box seats to a Patriots game as part of a company-wide charitable fundraiser. The CEO learned that the winner bid pooled money from friends so that she could take her dying father to see his beloved Patriots live, for the first time in his life.

        The CEO told Kraft and he took it from there. The intent was to perhaps have the father meet some of the players.

        Kraft took it to the nth degree. Arranged a private cocktail reception before the game for the group – then brought them on to the field and had them throwing the ball around … with all the Patriots. Even arranged for the opposing team (I think it was the Dolphins) to join them.

        Bob Kraft gave a dying man and his daughter the most amazing experience – and he didn’t have to.

        • Daryle
          December 15, 2011 at 7:08 am

          It’s a shame how we usually only hear the bad about pro athletes and the owner’s of these franchises. When my cousin, an NYPD undercover narc, was killed in the line of duty in 1988, some of the Philadelphia Eagles heard about his story and how he was a big Giants fan. When they came to NY to play the Giants later that year (or the following season) they had a a reception for my Aunt and Uncle with a lot of the Eagles as well as a lot of the Giants there. I think it was Reggie White that organized it but since my family didn’t invite me I have no first hand knowledge.

          Many of the pro franchises do things like that. It would be nice if we heard more about those things and less about the things like Plaxico shooting himself.

  • Comjam
    December 14, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Oy, what can I say? You want at least three opinions on any one topic, ask two of us Jews. Now, as for me, I hate him because he plays for Denver, and as a born-and-raised Chargers fan, they’re right down there with Oakland. Go Bolts!! :)

    • Joe in N Calif
      December 14, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      Now just a darned minute! Don’t you go bad mouthin’ the GawdamphrickinRaiders!

      While as a loyal son of San Diego County I support the Chargers, there is nothing at all wrong with also supporting the Raiders. Just twice a year you have to only root for DEEEE-FENSE.

      Bolts do need to go back to the powder blue jersey and white helmet. Classiest ever NFL uniform.

      And agree – his being a Bronc is enough to justify not liking him.

    • SCOTTtheBADGER
      December 14, 2011 at 11:28 pm

      If you want 3 opinions ask 2 Jews? I am a Lutheran Badger, whose sister married a Jewish chap. No wonder I get along with my Jewish relatives. It’s a known fact that if you gather 3 Lutherans together, you will soon have 4 synods. We are philosophically alike!

  • james
    December 14, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    my only problem with Tebow was that he played at Florida. Other than that good luck to him.

    • Byron
      December 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm

      I expect that your problem with Tim Tebow wasn’t that he played at Florida; rather, your problem is that the Gators have crushed your team several times in the past. Are you an Ohio St. fan, by the way ? :)

      • Quartermaster
        December 14, 2011 at 7:06 pm

        There’s a guy at my Church who is Florida Alum. Last year, when he would do announcement, he would say that he wasn’t going to say a thing about Florida winning as it might distract from the announcements.

        This year? Not a peep.

        • Byron
          December 15, 2011 at 1:24 am

          This year proves the axiom that the sun don’t shine up the same dogs butt every year ;)

          Not to mention, Urban Meyer was a lousy recruiter. Ohio State will find that out shortly.

  • xairboss
    December 14, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    I’m anxiously waiting with baited breath for Byron A to weigh in.

  • OldT6Flyer
    December 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    I admit to not liking him in college. Actually I didn’t like him because Gary Danielson wouldn’t shutup about him to the point of annoyance. But now that I don’t have to listen to Danielson go on and on I admire Tebow a lot. Because he is a winner. Because he doesn’t really seem to care one whit about what the critics say about him and is finding a way to win when all the “experts” say he can’t play in the NFL. As for the intolerant jerks who don’t like him because he is open about his faith – I couldn’t care less. That so many of them tend to lecture others about being tolerant about other faiths exposes them for what they truly are.

    Last time I read anything about it (and I don’t follow the Broncos) it seemed he has won over who really matters – his teammates and his coaches. From what little I know about football that seems like a common requirement for a winning team if you play quarterback.

    I hope he goes all the way. Just make sure Danielson stays on the college beat. If he became an NFL analyst I’d revert to former form in no time I’m afraid.

  • Zane
    December 14, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    The writer is smoking crack. Tebow’s team is 8-5. Go check out what Brady did after filling in for a splintered Drew Bledsoe. I think it ended with a Super Bowl ring. Tebow’s doing well so far, but no better than dozens of other also rans at this point in their career.

    As for the rest of the writer’s blather, I guess he’s got column inches to fill. Looking forward to Sunday, although I have to admit Denver is one of those teams that just always seems to have the Patriots’ number.

  • Rob
    December 14, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    First, holding Brady, who has a kid “without a full time Dad” around somewhere is pretty ignorant. Second, Tebow said “God doenet care about a game”. Third it reads similar to the “cukes, carrots and other sexy veggies are forbidden for women in the mid east article”. Were I the writer I would thank God, that I was getting paid, I wouldnt think I was very good at the job. Just leave the guy alone, he’s not Joan of Arc.

  • Bou
    December 14, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    We’re a Tebow family. We’ve been following him since he was at UF. (My husband’s an alumn of UF.) At first I was horrified by my second son’s great admiration. I didn’t want him to choose a sports figure as a hero, although he’s also the son that watches the military channel and talks about our Troops as heros. First came Tebow’s quote cut from the newspaper and taped to his wall. Then came the Gator jersey. The the Bronco’s jersey. And I watched and listened and I’m OK with it.

    I’m OK with it, not because Tim Tebow is a Christian, but because he walks the walk and talks the talk of a good person who is not backing down from his moral compass or personal beliefs when societal pressure is so intense. No matter how scrutenized, how ugly people are, he puts a smile on his face and holds to his convictions. He never shirks personal responsibility. And he not only takes personal responsibility for his errors, but is quick to give glory to his entire TEAM. He does not bask in anyone’s limelight. If he is going to bask, he’s pulling his teammates into the light with him.

    And he happens to be a Christian.

    I don’t think he’ll ever be a great QB. He will always struggle. BUT, he IS a great leader and his positive attitude is pulling his team into that… a team and they will continue to do good things because in their hearts and mind, they think they can. Their QB has said they can and he believes.

    I don’t get the haters. But… there are haters everywhere. I can hear it now. If they lose to the Pats, the headlines will be ridiculous things like, “God left Tebow”. God doesn’t care who wins a football game. But he may care how we act when we think no one is looking.

    • Byron
      December 14, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      Bou, I agree with everything you say; people have tried ever since his freshman year at UF to find a crack in the facade. All came away saying, “What you see, is what you got”. No one has ever found fault with his beliefs or what he says.

      Having said that, I think you’ll come to find out that Tim really is a very good quarterback. In case anyone forgot this, Tim set the passing record in the SEC, a very tough, very Darwinian conference that oh, by the way, has won the past six national championships. If he could pass successfully in the NCAA, I think he can do it just fine in the NFL. And oh, by the way…the touch down drive last week against Chicago? Seven straight completions down the field. Bottom line is when the chips are down, never, EVER count out Tim Tebow, because he doesn’t quit till he’s dead or the last whistle blows.

      • AO3 Ken
        December 14, 2011 at 5:58 pm

        You’re dead on Byron. But I gotta tell ya, after seven in a row… I’m not sure if my heart can take anymore last second comebacks! Might have to double up on my blood pressure meds on Sunday. ;)

        • Quartermaster
          December 14, 2011 at 7:10 pm

          Living on last second comebacks eventually gets you burned. It’s like consistently catching the one wire.

    • Stephen
      December 14, 2011 at 7:08 pm

      Bou, I love every single thing about your comment. Pitch perfect.

  • ZipprSuitdSungod
    December 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I like Tebow. It’s refreshing to see a QB that worships someone other than….themselves.

  • flatlander
    December 14, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    The writer is Jewish. I think his explanation is fairly typical Jewish reaction to strongly held Christian beliefs, which is based on fear. That’s the whole “religion plus football” shtick. The psychology here is the same psychology that motivates most Jews to vote Democrat – a deeply held fear of the Christian right. That this fear is irrational doesn’t make it any less powerful.

    I think this is somewhat different than the typical secularist reaction to Tebow.

    • Sarge
      December 14, 2011 at 3:19 pm

      “That this fear is irrational doesn’t make it any less powerful.”

      In fact, the reverse is often true.

    • Quartermaster
      December 14, 2011 at 7:19 pm

      Hammerman is the prototypical Jewicidal maniac. They keep voting for the type of people that love to hate Israel.

      While Hammerman was listed as a Rabbi in the article, he’s a leftist to the core. Most likely Reform, which means he wants to recognized as Jewish with being Jewish.

      Incidentally, Hammerman’s article has been purged and searching for “Tebow” brings up no results with the question, “did you mean lebow?” Jewish Week apparently realized there was no way to win this one and nuked the article. A wise move, in my opinion.

      Perhaps they will think a bit before printing such stuff and nonsense in the future.

      • Casey
        December 14, 2011 at 10:13 pm

        QM, I think he drew inspiration for that article more from his leftist ideology than his religion.

        I noticed the memory hole stunt just now, and advanced google search will show hits on old headers for the article, but when clicked they’re redirected to the general editorial page link. Didn’t see any links for cached versions, so they scrubbed it pretty well.

        Me, I lose respect for publications that pull this stunt. Leave the article up and take your lumps like an adult, or at least leave a stub reading something like “this was a really dumb thing to publish, so we yanked it.” As it stands now, they truly have shoved it down the memory hole, as per proper Big Brother procedure.

  • Sarge
    December 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Meaning to say, irrational fears generally have more influence on people than the arational ones do.

  • AO3 Ken
    December 14, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Verrry verrry interesting. The article, it seems, has been taken down, and there’s no mention of Mr. Tebow any where on The Jewish Week website.

    • Bou
      December 14, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      It was there and I read the comments. I’d say it was a 20:1 stat against his comments. Everyone was calling him a rascist. Every now and then someone would chime in they agreed.

  • lex
    December 14, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Down the memory hole! It’s even gone from the Google cache.

    Pretty sure someone got a screenshot.

    • Quartermaster
      December 14, 2011 at 7:21 pm

      I read the article during lunch today through the link at R.S. McCain’s site. Smitty got the link through Ace’s site. I’m sure it made the rounds and the editor’s quickly realized that printing it was rank idiocy. They really can’t afford to alienate Evangelicals.

    • Joe in N Calif
      December 14, 2011 at 9:10 pm

      I think this is a partial

      To Fox via Hillbuzz:

      http://nation.foxnews.com/tim-tebow/2011/12/14/columnist-if-tim-tebow-wins-super-bowl-christians-will-be-burning-mosques-bashing-gays-and

      My Tim Tebow Problem

      Monday, December 12, 2011
      Rabbi Joshua Hammerman, Jewish Week Online Columnist

      I’ve got a Tim Tebow problem.

      I want to root for the guy, but I’m afraid of what will happen if the hulky Denver Bronco quarterback continues to pull off what is fast becoming the Greatest Gridiron Story Ever Told.

      A poster boy of the Christian right, Tebow steadfastly thanks Jesus after every game and, while in college, often inscribed biblical messages on his eye paint.

      Now tiny Tim has grown and is on track to possibly appear in this season’s Super Bowl – on the field – and that is what scares me.

      In this country, nothing, not even God, is more popular than football. Even in the wake of a summer long labor dispute, 23 of the 25 most watched TV programs this fall have been NFL games. When you combine the religion that is football with the religion that is religion, the mix can be dangerously flammable. The NFL ratings rise has been fueled in part by Tebow’s legions of faithful followers, as well as by those simply curious to see how this implausible morality tale plays out.

      Next Sunday, the Broncos host the New England Patriots in a game coveted so much by the networks that NBC and CBS sparred in unprecedented fashion over who would get to broadcast it. And why not? While the Patriots are adored by their fans (myself included), to many nationwide they are regarded as the Sons of Darkness, with their perfectly coiffed Hollywood quarterback and their brilliant – one might say diabolical – hoodie-clad coach. And, oh yes, the most identifiably Jewish owner in sports. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft are all upstanding citizens, moral exemplars in their home communities, but in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate.

      People are always looking for signs of God’s beneficence, and a victory by the Orange Crush over the blue-clad Patriots, from the bluest of blue states, will give fodder to a Christian revivalism that has already turned the Republican presidential race into a pander-thon to social conservatives, rekindling memories of those cultural icons of the ‘80s, the Moral Majority and “Hee Haw.”

      If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, against all odds, it will buoy his faithful, and emboldened faithful can do insane things, like burning mosques, bashing gays and indiscriminately banishing immigrants.

      • Joe in N Calif
        December 14, 2011 at 9:14 pm

        Ah! http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V3Ombx7onCwJ:www.thejewishweek.com/editorial_opinion/my_tim_tebow_problem+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

        My Tim Tebow Problem
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        Monday, December 12, 2011
        Rabbi Joshua Hammerman
        Jewish Week Online Columnist

        I’ve got a Tim Tebow problem.

        I want to root for the guy, but I’m afraid of what will happen if the hulky Denver Bronco quarterback continues to pull off what is fast becoming the Greatest Gridiron Story Ever Told. Since taking over as starting quarterback earlier this season, the Heisman winning national champion from the University of Florida has been winning consistently and dramatically, in the final minutes of the game or overtime, relying on powerful legs rather than his infamously erratic arm and confounding skeptical fans along with the Bronco management, who, it is said, were hoping he would fail.

        A poster boy of the Christian right, Tebow steadfastly thanks Jesus after every game and, while in college, often inscribed biblical messages on his eye paint. Homeschooled in Alabama, this child of missionaries turned down his selection as a Playboy All American because it was, well, Playboy. His trademark prayerful touchdown celebration (imagine Rodin’s “Thinker” on bended knee, or your grandfather davening Tachanun with a football) has become a verb. Google “tebowing” and you’ll find 84 million hits, including lots of YouTube parodies. Tebow’s mother, a Baptist missionary, became comatose during her pregnancy and was saved by drugs that nearly killed the fetus. Doctors anticipated a stillbirth and recommended termination to protect her life, but Tim’s mother refused to abort. Trumpeting that decision, mother and son appeared in commercials for “Focus on the Family” during this past season’s Super Bowl.

        Now tiny Tim has grown and is on track to possibly appear in this season’s Super Bowl – on the field – and that is what scares me.

        In this country, nothing, not even God, is more popular than football. Even in the wake of a summer long labor dispute, 23 of the 25 most watched TV programs this fall have been NFL games. When you combine the religion that is football with the religion that is religion, the mix can be dangerously flammable. The NFL ratings rise has been fueled in part by Tebow’s legions of faithful followers, as well as by those simply curious to see how this implausible morality tale plays out.

        Next Sunday, the Broncos host the New England Patriots in a game coveted so much by the networks that NBC and CBS sparred in unprecedented fashion over who would get to broadcast it. And why not? While the Patriots are adored by their fans (myself included), to many nationwide they are regarded as the Sons of Darkness, with their perfectly coiffed Hollywood quarterback and their brilliant – one might say diabolical – hoodie-clad coach. And, oh yes, the most identifiably Jewish owner in sports. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft are all upstanding citizens, moral exemplars in their home communities, but in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate.

        People are always looking for signs of God’s beneficence, and a victory by the Orange Crush over the blue-clad Patriots, from the bluest of blue states, will give fodder to a Christian revivalism that has already turned the Republican presidential race into a pander-thon to social conservatives, rekindling memories of those cultural icons of the ‘80s, the Moral Majority and “Hee Haw.” The culture wars are alive and well, and, if the current climate in Washington is any indicator, the motors are being revved up for what will undoubtedly be the most cantankerous Presidential campaign ever. When supposedly well-educated candidates publicly question overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change and evolution and then gain electoral traction by fabricating conspiracies about a war on Christmas, these are not rational times.

        Into the middle of it all rides Tebow. Absolutely confident that God is on his side, he comes across as a humbler version of the biblical Joseph, who, in this week’s Torah portion, audaciously lays claim to being the Chosen One, and then goes out and proves it. Tebow’s sanctimonious God-talk has led even pious peers like Kurt Warner to suggest that he cool it. Joseph could have used the same coaching.

        If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, against all odds, it will buoy his faithful, and emboldened faithful can do insane things, like burning mosques, bashing gays and indiscriminately banishing immigrants. While America has become more inclusive since Jerry Falwell’s first political forays, a Tebow triumph could set those efforts back considerably.

        Little of this insanity, mind you, has to do with Tebow himself. I admire much of what he stands for. His mom’s decision to risk her own life rather than abort her fetus flies against my own – and Judaism’s – values, but neither am I pro-choice in all cases. His story is so improbable that if he were to win it all, a part of me would be wondering whether there is a Purpose behind it, just as I saw a divine hand in the equally unbelievable Red Sox victory of 2004. And it makes me wonder whether other Jews, the ones who don’t happen to have advanced degrees in religion and a few decades of rabbinic experience, might be even more seduced by this unfolding drama. Will legions of Southern Baptist missionaries hit the college campuses the very next day, spreading this new gospel of Tim? Already there is a “Jews for Tebow” Facebook page.

        Tebow used to wear eye black citing Ephesians 2:8-10, which states, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith (in Jesus).” His avenue to salvation is not available to those Jews who wish to remain Jewish.

        Unlike some other blue-staters, I do not fear people of faith. I fear people of certainty. The worldwide struggle going on right now is not between good and evil, but between certainty and doubt. It cuts across denominational lines: Progressive and Modern Orthodox Jews lie on one side of the divide, joining mainline Christians and moderate Muslims; and those on the other side are also Jews, Christians and Muslims; the people of certainty.

        For me, only one thing is certain. On Sunday, I’ll be praying for the Patriots.

  • Subguy
    December 14, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Gentlemen,

    Daniel Foster over at NRO Corner commented on the same article, although his link, like Lex’s, does not lead to any article over at “The Jewish Week” on Tim Tebow. Down the memory hole for sure!

    Here is a link to Foster’s comments: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/285821/can-judaism-survive-tim-tebow-daniel-foster

    I am a Giants fan, so I have my own issues. I sure do enjoy watching Tebow succeed and the tweaking that gives to all the right people. I am glad he is not a Cowboy.

  • Jim
    December 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Guessing the Colts wouldn’t mind having Tebow start at QB while Peyton Manning is healing.

  • Justthisguy
    December 14, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Let me declare my interest, before I get into this. I think American football is a silly stupid game, which sucks up money and public attention better spent elsewhere.

    That said, I have voluntarily attended at least 50 football games, in the stands, and enjoyed them very much.

    Of course I was properly dressed for them, wearing a band uniform. I feel sorry for people who pay money to attend or watch a football game.

    To go on, I see nothing wrong with playing football to the greater glory of God, if that is one’s calling.

    I commend to y’all’s attention the Anatole France story, “The Juggler of our Lady”, as I believe it is translated.

    I have tossed hand-launched gliders up into the air and seen them go out of sight overhead in thermals, never to be seen again, to the greater glory of God.

    • Casey
      December 14, 2011 at 10:17 pm

      ENNHH!!! ENNHH!!! ENNHH!!! ENNHH!!! BAND GEEK ALERT!!!

      “This one time, at band camp…”

      So, JTG, what did you play?

      • Justthisguy
        December 14, 2011 at 10:33 pm

        There was no such thing as “band camp” when I was a kid. I played clarinet. Second B-flat clarinet in marching (football) season, Alto clarinet in concert season. Second clarinet in the Ga.Tech band, and second clarinet in the Ga. Tech AFROTC band. The AF lent me an horrible metallic clarinet. I preferred my own wooden-and-plastic one.

        At least I got to hear, and obey, my favorite order in the whole world, while in the AFROTC band: Baannd! Sounnd! OFF!

        Jtg, at the Right of the Line, with The Colors.

  • Joe in N Calif
    December 14, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Ever notice how when a true leftist shows his colors like this other leftists claim that he isn’t “really” indicative of core leftist thought, but rather some way out there fringe element? Even though a quick perusal of left wing sites will disclose all the same ideas.

    Just like the “occupiers.” For some reason none of the trouble makers at those events are ever “officially” part of “the 99%.” So, that must mean that all the problems are caused by the millionaires of the 1%.

    • Quartermaster
      December 15, 2011 at 3:51 pm

      That’s why I pointed out he’s most likely Reform. Reform types are all leftists that want to be thought of as Jewish without being Jewish.

      OTOH, dislike of Christians is quite common among Orthodox Jews. They are a bit more discrete about such things. The reform types get emotionally overwhelmed and they feel themselves forced to lash out because of their politics. Hammerman is that kind of “Jew.”

      I do have to admit, however, that I’ve stories about you guys that read translations of the Septuagint.

  • Zane
    December 15, 2011 at 5:33 am

    He’s going to blow out a bicep flipping tires like that. He needs to get his shoulder to the tire and push, rather than get his arms under the tire to flip. Looks cool, not career ehancing.

  • BADLucas
    December 16, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Don’t watch TV, can’t really afford to go to games. But it seems to me, the man is making the right enemies.
    /sarcasm on
    Strikes against him:
    - No criminal record? Isn’t that a requirement for the human interest story about the player to show how football saved him?
    - True humility? All humility is only shown on TV, should never carry over into your personal life. It’s just not “normal”.
    - Christian. The one universal religion that is safe to hate, mock, and denigrate. 99% of their adherents won’t issue death warrants for off color jokes. (hmm, I used “off color” is this is where I get labled insensitive or something like that?)>
    /sarcasm off

  • Zane
    December 20, 2011 at 7:18 am

    Now that the Patriots have settled that, Tim who?
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